oliTwist
01-15 01:32 PM
Folks,
There are many discussions on immigration (some in favor and some totally misrepresenting the legal immigration).Mind you many of the ordinary citizens are voting on these posts, which indicate the popularity. Obviously this is one way of increasing the popularity of posts highlighting our case (ala Digg)
Only a few of the immigration posts are addressing our pain points. One eg is something like: Please help the Immigration System
Please vote for them and champion the advantages for all by commenting and voting.
I believe at the moment this is achievable by all. Please act!
There are many discussions on immigration (some in favor and some totally misrepresenting the legal immigration).Mind you many of the ordinary citizens are voting on these posts, which indicate the popularity. Obviously this is one way of increasing the popularity of posts highlighting our case (ala Digg)
Only a few of the immigration posts are addressing our pain points. One eg is something like: Please help the Immigration System
Please vote for them and champion the advantages for all by commenting and voting.
I believe at the moment this is achievable by all. Please act!
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rajagopal_04
01-03 08:12 AM
Today i got reply from Chennai, NIV saying i need to wait somemore days...:mad:
Does anyone got their PP back...? Thanks (My wife had interview on Dec 19th)
Does anyone got their PP back...? Thanks (My wife had interview on Dec 19th)
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07-16 09:02 AM
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chanduv23
03-22 11:21 AM
>> AC21 memo is a real memo.
Wow, what an ignorance. May I ask, what do you mean by "real memo".
Read previous post and get enlightened. I can't believe that you guys even don't have distinctions about law, CFR, and memos.
AC-21 is law.
Hope it helps.
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Not a legal advice.
Correct. It is a bill that was signed into a law. Though USCIS follows AC21 in form of Memos, the law is binding and that's why we see that AC21 always works . It cannot be compared to the new h1b memo.
Wow, what an ignorance. May I ask, what do you mean by "real memo".
Read previous post and get enlightened. I can't believe that you guys even don't have distinctions about law, CFR, and memos.
AC-21 is law.
Hope it helps.
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Not a legal advice.
Correct. It is a bill that was signed into a law. Though USCIS follows AC21 in form of Memos, the law is binding and that's why we see that AC21 always works . It cannot be compared to the new h1b memo.
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rajuseattle
04-22 10:43 AM
Employment based VISA numbers should not have country quotas, it is purely based on individual talents and skills when one gets selected for the Job and Green card sponsorship.
Lets say they have quota system to avoid the concentration of 1 country, then they should have some flexibility to adjust the country quotas based on the backlog too, certain % of EB numbers goes to clear the backlogs each year, that way everyone will remain at about the same level of retrogression, EB-2 RoW current and EB-2 India @ 2006 level and on the same line EB-3 RoW @ 2005 and EB-3 India @ 2002 level is ridiculous and just plain insane. This is like a punishment to People who are born in certain countries and no matter how talent and skills the individual have, the law is punishing him/her or rather discriminating him/her based on country of BIRTH.
Lets say they have quota system to avoid the concentration of 1 country, then they should have some flexibility to adjust the country quotas based on the backlog too, certain % of EB numbers goes to clear the backlogs each year, that way everyone will remain at about the same level of retrogression, EB-2 RoW current and EB-2 India @ 2006 level and on the same line EB-3 RoW @ 2005 and EB-3 India @ 2002 level is ridiculous and just plain insane. This is like a punishment to People who are born in certain countries and no matter how talent and skills the individual have, the law is punishing him/her or rather discriminating him/her based on country of BIRTH.
Humhongekamyab
07-02 02:42 PM
With due respects, dude, this is one thing an individual should fight for himself, how will some other employee benefit if you sue your employer and win?..
I do not think small time bad desi employers are hiring illegals. They are doing everything right as per law, it is just that the law is in favor of the employers and the immigration delays further gives them leeway to try their dirty tricks.
Having said that, I appreciate your post informing affected employees on how to file a case. It will be useful for people who have a case against their employers. Please keep us posted on the outcome, I am sure it will motivate a lot of us.
Buddy when I was talking about illegals I was not talking about IT jobs or desi employers though I know desi's run lots of other businesses like grocery store, resturants, which required non-professional workers.
If the employer see ICE/DOL taking action against another employer and making an example out of it s/he will think twice about doing the same thing. Look at what happened with Fragomen. Though it is too early to say if Fragomen was involved in wrong doing, I am sure other immigration firms are already reviewing their procedure/guidance to make themselves compliant with the law/procedure.
I do not think small time bad desi employers are hiring illegals. They are doing everything right as per law, it is just that the law is in favor of the employers and the immigration delays further gives them leeway to try their dirty tricks.
Having said that, I appreciate your post informing affected employees on how to file a case. It will be useful for people who have a case against their employers. Please keep us posted on the outcome, I am sure it will motivate a lot of us.
Buddy when I was talking about illegals I was not talking about IT jobs or desi employers though I know desi's run lots of other businesses like grocery store, resturants, which required non-professional workers.
If the employer see ICE/DOL taking action against another employer and making an example out of it s/he will think twice about doing the same thing. Look at what happened with Fragomen. Though it is too early to say if Fragomen was involved in wrong doing, I am sure other immigration firms are already reviewing their procedure/guidance to make themselves compliant with the law/procedure.
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prince_waiting
12-12 11:22 PM
IV managed to fight its way through the July visa bulleting fiasco and compelled the USCIS to honor the original bulletin. Even after witnessing such a huge achievement if some people are making comments like they would like to weigh IV's worth before deciding to make contributions then they can be classified as perennial skeptics.
Visa bulletin after visa bulletin is putting us into a spiraling depressive state. IV is the only organization which is interested in solving this retrogression mess affecting highly skilled immigrants.
Make IV a paid subscription organization at $50 membership fees per annum. It is better to have 10000 members who can surely generate half a million dollars in revenue, rather than 25000 members who take about 8 days to generate 30000 in funds.
Visa bulletin after visa bulletin is putting us into a spiraling depressive state. IV is the only organization which is interested in solving this retrogression mess affecting highly skilled immigrants.
Make IV a paid subscription organization at $50 membership fees per annum. It is better to have 10000 members who can surely generate half a million dollars in revenue, rather than 25000 members who take about 8 days to generate 30000 in funds.
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p1234
10-03 12:09 PM
Sensible people,
I need some greens here. :P
EB2 I/C retrogression 10-03-2008 11:11 AM Here you go again.
EB2 I/C retrogression 10-03-2008 08:17 AM Kutte
EB2 I/C retrogression 10-03-2008 08:16 AM Saale
EB2 I/C retrogression 10-03-2008 01:23 AM disapprov
Dude, I'm not flaming at you (it was gctest not you) but you also made really demeaning statements and then tried to retract them when you started getting reds, I think. Its not good to trash others.
I need some greens here. :P
EB2 I/C retrogression 10-03-2008 11:11 AM Here you go again.
EB2 I/C retrogression 10-03-2008 08:17 AM Kutte
EB2 I/C retrogression 10-03-2008 08:16 AM Saale
EB2 I/C retrogression 10-03-2008 01:23 AM disapprov
Dude, I'm not flaming at you (it was gctest not you) but you also made really demeaning statements and then tried to retract them when you started getting reds, I think. Its not good to trash others.
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snathan
03-29 01:53 PM
@Snathan how did you know he didn't call me here , are you one of the consultants yourself who does this filthy work of cheating people.
I guess it was my employers discretion to make me sit home with him just not responding to my mails, i couldn't barge in to his office and say hey give me desk to work on? can i ?
Anyways looking at the LCA agreement i think you don't seem to know what you are talking about, I am here holding his company's name on my H1B form , His agreement on LCA and his employment letter, i dunno if there is any other way i could make inroads into barging into his office?
Now if he puts a security guard against me entering his office, shouldn't i report this to DOL too?
Mind your words you low life scum bag. You don’t know what you were doing and paid for H1B and landed here and informed your employer through email which states he did not invite you to the US though he applied for the H1B. By the way when did he informed about the project situation.
Yea...you go ahead and report DOL or even white house. I am sure you won’t get anything out of it as there are so many loop holes in your case. No one is going to pay you the green buck because you want it.
Getting emotional is not going to help you. Your case is not going to impact your employer until he is doing this as a pattern. The only other option is, if you can get another job apply for a transfer and the approval without I-94. Then you will have to go out of the country and come back.
Your first priority should be to get the job and fix your visa issues. Then find other employees working for this employer and if they are in similar situation like you. If so, you have a very strong case and complaint to DOL. May be you should use this as a leverage to get the pay stub and do transfer. Really speaking pay stub is not an issue as long as you are able to get a job.
You need to relax and think what do you want to do and whats your goal...do you want to put your life back on track or go after this guy. You can teach him a lesson but how it’s going to help improving your situation. Because of the current environment, no one needs to file any complaint and every application from any company is thoroughly scrutinized by the USCIS. Worst case he will shut the shop and open another one. All he needs is a $300 to register a company. USCIS is not going to deport him as he might be already on GC or USC. But there is every possibility for ICE to knock on your door. You are just shooting yourself in the foot. Good luck.
I guess it was my employers discretion to make me sit home with him just not responding to my mails, i couldn't barge in to his office and say hey give me desk to work on? can i ?
Anyways looking at the LCA agreement i think you don't seem to know what you are talking about, I am here holding his company's name on my H1B form , His agreement on LCA and his employment letter, i dunno if there is any other way i could make inroads into barging into his office?
Now if he puts a security guard against me entering his office, shouldn't i report this to DOL too?
Mind your words you low life scum bag. You don’t know what you were doing and paid for H1B and landed here and informed your employer through email which states he did not invite you to the US though he applied for the H1B. By the way when did he informed about the project situation.
Yea...you go ahead and report DOL or even white house. I am sure you won’t get anything out of it as there are so many loop holes in your case. No one is going to pay you the green buck because you want it.
Getting emotional is not going to help you. Your case is not going to impact your employer until he is doing this as a pattern. The only other option is, if you can get another job apply for a transfer and the approval without I-94. Then you will have to go out of the country and come back.
Your first priority should be to get the job and fix your visa issues. Then find other employees working for this employer and if they are in similar situation like you. If so, you have a very strong case and complaint to DOL. May be you should use this as a leverage to get the pay stub and do transfer. Really speaking pay stub is not an issue as long as you are able to get a job.
You need to relax and think what do you want to do and whats your goal...do you want to put your life back on track or go after this guy. You can teach him a lesson but how it’s going to help improving your situation. Because of the current environment, no one needs to file any complaint and every application from any company is thoroughly scrutinized by the USCIS. Worst case he will shut the shop and open another one. All he needs is a $300 to register a company. USCIS is not going to deport him as he might be already on GC or USC. But there is every possibility for ICE to knock on your door. You are just shooting yourself in the foot. Good luck.
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gcgreen
08-13 07:45 PM
What makes you think you qualify for EB1? Is it because you were planning to apply in OR category? or because you wanted to apply in EA category?
FYI, a fresh PhD has very little chance to make it in EA category, and OR is applicable only for a researcher position.
It's nice to create a big fuss about your qualifications and how you have been hurt, but at the end of the day, these were choices YOU made (i.e. taking up full-time PhD instead of going to work immediately after school). Also, as someone else said on one of these never ending threads, there is nothing that prevented your future employer applying for GC for a future job for you as soon as you finish PhD :-)
So, again, if you are so qualified, and happy to live the consequences of your decision, where is the PLIGHT?
..."who were qualified for EB2 but applied in EB3. " ...Exactly my point. Technically I am qualified for EB1 but filed as EB2, hence i need to play by the rules governing EB2. Now if i begin lamenting that I am qualified for EB1 which is current and life is unfair since i am in EB2, how much sense would that make? My point is Don't crib if EB3 is retrogressed...use the system and become EB2, port your priority date, which is ofcourse dependent upon finding an EB2 job !!! All of this nonsense .."i pray someone does something for EB3" is going to get no one anywhere !! Fight for comprehensive immigration reform or HR 5882 recapture BUT for god's sake Do not blame the EB2 - India people who have played by the rules and are in a favorable position today relative to EB3 !!
The lawsuit against PD porting makes sense from an EB2 perspective and they are right to go ahead with it. Porting your PD from EB3 to EB2 makes sense from an EB3 perspective and every EB3 should try to do it before this door closes, if it does.
FYI, a fresh PhD has very little chance to make it in EA category, and OR is applicable only for a researcher position.
It's nice to create a big fuss about your qualifications and how you have been hurt, but at the end of the day, these were choices YOU made (i.e. taking up full-time PhD instead of going to work immediately after school). Also, as someone else said on one of these never ending threads, there is nothing that prevented your future employer applying for GC for a future job for you as soon as you finish PhD :-)
So, again, if you are so qualified, and happy to live the consequences of your decision, where is the PLIGHT?
..."who were qualified for EB2 but applied in EB3. " ...Exactly my point. Technically I am qualified for EB1 but filed as EB2, hence i need to play by the rules governing EB2. Now if i begin lamenting that I am qualified for EB1 which is current and life is unfair since i am in EB2, how much sense would that make? My point is Don't crib if EB3 is retrogressed...use the system and become EB2, port your priority date, which is ofcourse dependent upon finding an EB2 job !!! All of this nonsense .."i pray someone does something for EB3" is going to get no one anywhere !! Fight for comprehensive immigration reform or HR 5882 recapture BUT for god's sake Do not blame the EB2 - India people who have played by the rules and are in a favorable position today relative to EB3 !!
The lawsuit against PD porting makes sense from an EB2 perspective and they are right to go ahead with it. Porting your PD from EB3 to EB2 makes sense from an EB3 perspective and every EB3 should try to do it before this door closes, if it does.
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shree772000
10-09 04:46 PM
You are right on - most of conversations/analysis on RE market in India (especially Hyderabad which I am familiar with) center around how NRI/IT employee money has spurred the prices. its a big urban legend. Majority of these "investments" were with black money - corrupt govt employees, local businessmen, and politicians of all parties, and ultra rich actors. They saw a chance in converting their black money into white and pumped up into RE projects as "investments". I saw a report somewhere which said that these black-money transactions can account for atleast 33% of RE transactions in hyderabad (with another 1/3 coming from companies/FII's and only the other 1/3 from NRI's + local rich professionals like IT employees/doctors/lawyers etc). In the apartment and SF homes market most of the projects are in the mid-way thru completion -with majority of apartment projects scheduled to complete in 2009-11. During that time there will be abundant apartments with not many people living in them - expect to see rental prices go down even more.
Of course these investors would eventually try to cash their assets - and deman vs supply equations change dramatically to drag down prices. In addition to this - the current global economic conditions are bad (to put it very mildly) - the argument that it will not touch India may not be correct. Our economy is a lot smaller than other economies like US/europe and depend a lot on those economies - more financial companies bankruptsies would affect IT companies revenues. Also there were direct investments from some of the failed companies in India - for example Lehman Bros had a investment in one of apartment project in Hyderabad. Morgan Stanley, Merrill Lynch, etc. all have tie ups with RE companies with huge "promised" investments. Now that they themselves are in trouble - dont think that they would venture into indian RE market anymore - this can also potentially drag down prices.
I could be wrong (was saying that this would happen for last one year - it didnt happen so far ;)) - but I think buying an apartment/house in Hyderabad/Bangalore/Chennai now in 2008 as an "investment" is not a great idea. If the buy is to live there - then its another matter (I never look at my home as an investment - its more of a life style choice whether in India or in US).
On the same note.... On my last trip to India, Hyd specifically...I went around and asked some people I knew for an estimate on a property...I saw people just pulled the numbers out of thin air. I donno how they came to the number, there was nothing to track the real value, like revenue records etc.
I think this also causes the bubble we are seeing, as some people who have cash and are willing to pay may buy it at that price and that will cause people to think that its actually worth that much.
Of course these investors would eventually try to cash their assets - and deman vs supply equations change dramatically to drag down prices. In addition to this - the current global economic conditions are bad (to put it very mildly) - the argument that it will not touch India may not be correct. Our economy is a lot smaller than other economies like US/europe and depend a lot on those economies - more financial companies bankruptsies would affect IT companies revenues. Also there were direct investments from some of the failed companies in India - for example Lehman Bros had a investment in one of apartment project in Hyderabad. Morgan Stanley, Merrill Lynch, etc. all have tie ups with RE companies with huge "promised" investments. Now that they themselves are in trouble - dont think that they would venture into indian RE market anymore - this can also potentially drag down prices.
I could be wrong (was saying that this would happen for last one year - it didnt happen so far ;)) - but I think buying an apartment/house in Hyderabad/Bangalore/Chennai now in 2008 as an "investment" is not a great idea. If the buy is to live there - then its another matter (I never look at my home as an investment - its more of a life style choice whether in India or in US).
On the same note.... On my last trip to India, Hyd specifically...I went around and asked some people I knew for an estimate on a property...I saw people just pulled the numbers out of thin air. I donno how they came to the number, there was nothing to track the real value, like revenue records etc.
I think this also causes the bubble we are seeing, as some people who have cash and are willing to pay may buy it at that price and that will cause people to think that its actually worth that much.
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jthomas
01-13 07:15 AM
I had signed in but don't know how to vote. The link you mention below does not work either.
All,
Please do this, register yourself, and search for "immigration". You will see 10-15 questions. Please vote for them. Please pass on the message to your friends. Obama wants to hear from us..
http://change.gov/page/content/openf...17_private_url
All,
Please do this, register yourself, and search for "immigration". You will see 10-15 questions. Please vote for them. Please pass on the message to your friends. Obama wants to hear from us..
http://change.gov/page/content/openf...17_private_url
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gjoe
12-03 01:00 PM
The S/N ration can be made >1 by increasing the signal strength.
The noise can be cut off, but in this case the noise is what needs to be amplified and conditioned to make it look like Signal :)
How do you suggest IV 'forum' improves the Signal-to-Noise ratio?
Right now it's too noisy and is driving away determined members (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=199027#post199027)!
How do you know what I care about and not? I can give some famous examples of GC holders working for IV - Aman Kapoor founder member, Tamsen Mitchell (franklin) leader of South California chapter, and many more.
I may remain active if I feel the cause is worth spending my time, money and effort. Right now, a crowd of 25,000 tracking receipts and discussing mundane issues doesn't give me the confidence to say so. I have better things in life to fight for than a lost cause where the victims (most of them) wait for others to fight for them !
The noise can be cut off, but in this case the noise is what needs to be amplified and conditioned to make it look like Signal :)
How do you suggest IV 'forum' improves the Signal-to-Noise ratio?
Right now it's too noisy and is driving away determined members (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=199027#post199027)!
How do you know what I care about and not? I can give some famous examples of GC holders working for IV - Aman Kapoor founder member, Tamsen Mitchell (franklin) leader of South California chapter, and many more.
I may remain active if I feel the cause is worth spending my time, money and effort. Right now, a crowd of 25,000 tracking receipts and discussing mundane issues doesn't give me the confidence to say so. I have better things in life to fight for than a lost cause where the victims (most of them) wait for others to fight for them !
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IndiaNJ
07-18 10:16 AM
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itsokgc
07-15 03:13 PM
I came to know, where late about immigrationvoice. I really appreciate you efforts, for all the right causes of the legal immigrants.
I signed.
I signed.
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Sreeshankar
05-01 04:11 PM
I had soft LUD ON 1-485 primary application yesterday and today
Please could you people kindly post which service center is it - TSC or NSC ?
Thank you very much.
Sree
Please could you people kindly post which service center is it - TSC or NSC ?
Thank you very much.
Sree
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GCBy3000
04-23 11:28 AM
My Second $100 on the way. It should reach IV on 28th.
Great job and keep it up.
I talked about this IV to lots of my immigrant friends who are in different stages of GC processing. I feel those folks are thinking of getting a free ride with others contributions and hard work. I can only pity them for not being a part of the team. This kind of character would get them GC but would not get them to top in any profession. Still I did not lose my heart. I will keep on talking about IV with them and I beleive, one day they will feel to contribute.
Great job and keep it up.
I talked about this IV to lots of my immigrant friends who are in different stages of GC processing. I feel those folks are thinking of getting a free ride with others contributions and hard work. I can only pity them for not being a part of the team. This kind of character would get them GC but would not get them to top in any profession. Still I did not lose my heart. I will keep on talking about IV with them and I beleive, one day they will feel to contribute.
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waitforevergc
05-07 11:27 AM
First of all Congratulations desi#### and thanks for continuing to support IV.
Interesting discussion going on. Yes, I agree that most of us here are waiting for our GC and some of them go on to become US Citizens.
I believe that becoming a citizen of any country is a person's choice, so let us not give desi### a hard time here.:o
But I certainly do not think it is an 'achievement' to get a US citizenship, just because it implies indirectly it is an 'achievement' to let go off Indian citizenship. Nothing meant to offend you desi#### but it hurts when one reads such a statement somewhere deep inside the mind. But hey, as I said earlier, to each his own and noone should be judging others in their decisions.
And it is not only Indians becoming US citizens every year. There are others too.
Personally, even with all the advantages as stated above of being a US citizen, I will never let go of my Indian passport. Even if the authorities give it to me tomorrow in a lottery;) Never.
Why? Because my identity, my rich heritage, my family roots, my parents, my culture everything is Indian and am proud of it. There are lot of sentimental and emotional attachments. I was going through the OCI articles today after reading this discussion.
It is not exactly a dual citizenship. Some clauses are no voting rights! No Indian Passport!
Getting a GC is another thing, but when I decide to go back after a couple of years, I would definitely want to retain my voting rights. ! I rest my case.
Interesting discussion going on. Yes, I agree that most of us here are waiting for our GC and some of them go on to become US Citizens.
I believe that becoming a citizen of any country is a person's choice, so let us not give desi### a hard time here.:o
But I certainly do not think it is an 'achievement' to get a US citizenship, just because it implies indirectly it is an 'achievement' to let go off Indian citizenship. Nothing meant to offend you desi#### but it hurts when one reads such a statement somewhere deep inside the mind. But hey, as I said earlier, to each his own and noone should be judging others in their decisions.
And it is not only Indians becoming US citizens every year. There are others too.
Personally, even with all the advantages as stated above of being a US citizen, I will never let go of my Indian passport. Even if the authorities give it to me tomorrow in a lottery;) Never.
Why? Because my identity, my rich heritage, my family roots, my parents, my culture everything is Indian and am proud of it. There are lot of sentimental and emotional attachments. I was going through the OCI articles today after reading this discussion.
It is not exactly a dual citizenship. Some clauses are no voting rights! No Indian Passport!
Getting a GC is another thing, but when I decide to go back after a couple of years, I would definitely want to retain my voting rights. ! I rest my case.
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kubmilegaGC
09-15 11:20 PM
kubmilegaGC - Yeah, lets hope so. Let's see who is going to be the last man standing!!! :D
Btw, do you know the sequence to get to the POJ method for TSC center? I am planning on calling them tomorrow.
Thanks!
PRESS 4 instead of 3 (outside of normal processing time) - I guess go back couple pages on this thread or "Sept approvals (our very own favorite) thread :) - you will get the details.
Lets keep each other posted.
Thanks,
Btw, do you know the sequence to get to the POJ method for TSC center? I am planning on calling them tomorrow.
Thanks!
PRESS 4 instead of 3 (outside of normal processing time) - I guess go back couple pages on this thread or "Sept approvals (our very own favorite) thread :) - you will get the details.
Lets keep each other posted.
Thanks,
trueguy
09-15 06:23 PM
Guys, Oct'08 VB is out and dates are retrogressed again? How on the earth dates can go back. This is the most stupid system I have ever seen in my life.
Don't they have computer in USCIS? If not, I can send some money to buy few computers so they can process EB3-I applications.
Don't they have computer in USCIS? If not, I can send some money to buy few computers so they can process EB3-I applications.
abhijitp
03-13 12:40 PM
Thanks Waldenpond, paskal, english_august!
As far as joining a state chapter, you don't need to have face to face meetings at all. We haven't had even ONE meeting in NORCAL in the last few months.
Several state chapter members have collected & mailed to us dozens of letters without meeting us even once.
When there is time to act, you don't have to worry about how far you live etc.
The joint efforts of SoCal & NorCal are an excellent example as well. Gsc999 from NorCal has been to SoCal once in a while to help them with a Diwali Mela or a Letters drive, and SoCal folks drove to San Jose for the rally in July 07, and drona from SoCal helped us organize a Diwali mela event in NorCal in 11/2007.
More recently, rinsuper from SoCal called up hundreds of IV members all over California, then mailed us a bunch of 50 letters she had personally collected!
If there is a will, there is a way. If you insist on having a local chapter, feel free to setup yourself. IV will be too happy to help you do it!
As far as joining a state chapter, you don't need to have face to face meetings at all. We haven't had even ONE meeting in NORCAL in the last few months.
Several state chapter members have collected & mailed to us dozens of letters without meeting us even once.
When there is time to act, you don't have to worry about how far you live etc.
The joint efforts of SoCal & NorCal are an excellent example as well. Gsc999 from NorCal has been to SoCal once in a while to help them with a Diwali Mela or a Letters drive, and SoCal folks drove to San Jose for the rally in July 07, and drona from SoCal helped us organize a Diwali mela event in NorCal in 11/2007.
More recently, rinsuper from SoCal called up hundreds of IV members all over California, then mailed us a bunch of 50 letters she had personally collected!
If there is a will, there is a way. If you insist on having a local chapter, feel free to setup yourself. IV will be too happy to help you do it!
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